dude, i really hope you are kidding about thirteen. i have only lost any respect for you i might have had. I'm not joking AT ALL. If you ever want to talk to me again, you can do it through an intermediary. Thirteen was probably the most cliched, stupid movies I have EVER seen. It wasn't even a joke. It did nothing but further the same hackneyed stereotypes, and felt like a big budget lifetime special. It shed no light on the lives of teenagers. It did nothing but dig up the same old one dimensional characters, with a message that we need to return to good old-fashioned white supremacist capitalist patriarchal values to keep teenagers on the "right" path. Subversion does not happen simply because images are transgressive. Thirteen is the escapist fantasy of an adult imagination, a lifetime movie as i said before. The fact that the script was written by a 13 year old girl does not alter its standpoint or message. By focusing on sex and drugs, as every movie about teenagers has EVER DONE, no real issues are looked at AT ALL! (patriarchal parenting, class exploitation, race and gender domination, exclusion, and subordination.) Only someone with NO awareness of the culture of teenagers would be shocked by this film, which is so hackneyed and over the top, with such little actual story that I wanted to puke. What movie did you see? Or did you just read the review in rolling stone?

Wait, ARE you serious about Thirteen?

Jake Blade, I was being sarcastic. Obviously Thirteen sucked. Good thing you didn't flip out or anything.

yeah i know! good thing i didn't flip out.

OK I don't know about you guys, but I saw two hot chicks making out. I think it's time to start looking at the silver lining...

i see hot chicks making out constatnly. two just went past my window making out while they rode bikes.